More than 68,000 COVID-19 cases and 16,000 related deaths in US nursing homes may have gone uncounted because they occurred before federal guidelines required facilities to report case and death data in late May 2020

Read the Story

Show Top Comments

I don’t understand why it’s even possible to not report deaths and causes. Silly me, I just assumed that we’ve had decades of most people doing their best to both determine and report causes of death, backed up by enough auditing and inspection to catch the slackers. Edit: after nearly a day of comments, probably the most I’ve ever had, it’s time for me to add what I’ve learned. My assumption seems to have been completely unfounded. For a multitude of reasons, the systems I thought existed either don’t exist or don’t function the way I thought they did. For starters, good people acting in good faith, using the best information they had, decided that the kind of system that I envisioned was far too expensive to create and maintain in relation to the usefulness of that data. That’s not to say there were and are no bad actors, but the system just wasn’t built to provide the kind of detailed reporting I thought it was. That doesn’t mean we’re in the dark, though. There is a measure called “excess deaths”. It turns out the statisticians have a very good idea how many people die every year, regardless of cause. They also have a very good idea how that number varies over a few different time scales. That means they can tell how many more people died than was expected. Just a single number can’t tell us who died of directly as a result of COVID as opposed to, say, as a result of not getting care because the ICUs were full. But there are ways to account for a variety of factors so that we can have confidence in how those excess deaths can be assigned to general categories. So, even though the system doesn’t work the way I thought, and maybe *can’t* work like that, it should be possible to get some pretty reasonable numbers out of the relatively simple and inexpensive data that we already collect. I don’t know if or how “excess deaths” statistics factor into the official reports, but that would be nice to know.

jadero

For this reason – and many more that fall in the same category – I believe that the most accurate estimations of the number of COVID-related deaths is done by looking at excess mortality, and not reported deaths

ManagementProof2272

How we treat the elderly and disabled is criminal.

KittenKoder

And don’t forget Coumo tried to cover it up in NY.

Esoteric907

My grandmother died in April 2020 from Covid-19 and related issues. The state of Michigan told my family that she had to be cremated no matter what her and the family wanted. She had a coffin and plot ready as she was getting up there in age, but we ended up selling it to pay cremation costs. We didn’t even have enough left over to get her a proper urn. She was buried in her plot in a plastic tote. While I agree that we didn’t understand Covid-19 at the time, and that we didn’t know how infectious or non-infectious it could be, it was rough to handle not giving her a respectful burial. She contracted Covid-19 at the old folks center she was living at. The faculty treated Covid-19 like a joke, and didn’t seem to care that she contracted it there or that she had died from it. Probably some under reporting for stuff like this.

HerpDerp311