6th branch of the military was born today, 20 December 2019

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So do we have to tear down the Pentagon and build a Hexagon?

the_ryantist

So the Navy has the Marines, the air Force gets space force, does the army now get subterranean mole force?

mrfixit505

“Maybe your purpose on this planet isn’t on this planet”

Can’t tell if recruitment message or sick burn

moniker5000

Wow so cool! More bloating to the military budget, increased militarization of a public resource, and forced to use tax dollars to pay for defense and some research not accessible to the public!

Carl_The_Sagan

This is pretty cool. Nobody is alive who was there when the army navy marines were born. I can say say I was there when the space force was born!

maschine01

Astronaut Thomas Jones ran science operations on the “night shift” during STS-59, the first flight of the Space Radar Laboratory and did 3 space walks totaling over 19 hours. Jones’s book Sky Walking: An Astronaut’s Memoir, was named one of the top five books on the subject of space

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I read the Kelly book about one year of life on the ISS. It was fascinating.

Well, the parts about the ISS were fascinating. His life story bored me to tears. I ended up skipping every other chapter since he alternated them between the ISS and what he was like in grade school.

I’ll check this one out too. Thanks for the info.

ManhattanTime

I saw his presentation at the Kennedy Space Center 😀 it was about space food and how shitty it was, but they had little games and “traditions” to help keep morale up. Chill dude.

cedenof10

Reading about a humans experience working in space sounds fascinating. Great suggestion!

gimmeslack12

In 2016 I met him after performing at Carnegie Hall and the congressional lawn in a Symphony. He’s a very cool guy, had the longest recorded spacewalk. I have a NASA cap and his Book signed by him.

Phil_Da_Thrill

I was fortunate enough to meet and work with Tom at JSC. Great, great guy.

NASATVENGINNER

Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft fails key NASA mission, unable to reach the International Space Station after flying into wrong orbit

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Ouch. They’re not pulling any punches here, the article contains barely any of the positive spin from the official NASA and Boeing statements but *does* mention the fatal issues with the 737 Max.

rebootyourbrainstem

Boeing and NASA are going to try to spin this as mostly being a success. They said during the press conference that they met many of their objectives. They even mention at one point that this issue never came up during any of the simulations. This really makes me wonder about the viability of simulations vs. real world testing.

The fact is the capsule did not reach the ISS. While every other part of this mission seems to have gone well, and people on board might very well have been able to correct it, I do hope NASA doesn’t let this slide as a “success” and allow their next flight to be manned. There should be no manned flight until the Starliner is able to go to the ISS and come back with minimal problems. It doesn’t have to be perfect (that is what testing is for), but it does need to meet ALL primary objectives.

I half suspect there is at least a reasonable chance they say “good enough” and allow the next one to be manned… I think that would be a mistake.

Jackleme

Boeing really seems to be screwing up on this project, and honestly as a company in general. If I were a major investor, I’d probably be calling for a substantial change in leadership after what’s been going on over the last few years.

Burner_Acount

There’s surely something seriously wrong in Boeing’s design and testing processes. Couple this with the 737 Max issues and you’ve got to wonder what the hell is going on before these get signed off.

wirral_guy

The real question is whether they recover Rosie. I hope they do.

CypripediumCalceolus

Update: #Starliner had a Mission Elapsed Time (MET) anomaly causing the spacecraft to believe that it was in an orbital insertion burn, when it was not. More information at 9am ET:

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Gotta say, it is nice to get timely and informative updates from an NASA administrator.

Viremia

This isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of their ability to properly program control systems… Boeing needs this like a hole in the head after the 737 Max fiasco.

SirTrekkypj

Attitude control deadbands will kill you very quickly if not set up correctly

Radium84

It’s so disappointing what seems to be a software error. There’s no excuse not to catch these things in testing.

buddaycousin

As a note, the 9am conference is cancelled.

Starks

Boeing’s Starliner capsule makes launch debut, but hits snag

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They left the RCS system on while the engine was firing and burned off all the RCS fuel.

Software and systems engineering issue.

Why am I not surprised?

AlgoMalissimo

It honestly disgusts me how team-focused people have become over this shit. We should want as many people involved in this industry as possible and instead every article about any company but SpaceX is full of insults and memes from people too stupid to work for any of these companies.

High5Time

Shit happens, they will learn a ton from this and it will work next time. It’s not like every rocket company gets it right first time

Pafkay

Having only read the headline, my first thought is they removed a necessary safety feature to save money.

Khoalb

So, Boeing get paid more than SpaceX but still fails to reach ISS. I get that we should have more companies involved, but like seriously, can we at least pay more to company with better success rate. Or, how about paid equally?

I guess we should incentivize failures then. Every time Boeing fails, it yells “give me more money”

xxtanisxx

Starliner has had an off-nominal insertion. It is currently unclear if Starliner is going to be able to stay in orbit or re-enter again. Press conference at 14:00 UTC!

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have any amatuers gotten some orbital elements from telescope observers?

Aszaszasz

Both Dragon and Cygnus docked with the ISS on their first attempt to dock. Both of those spacecraft had substantially smaller development budgets than Starliner. This should be easy for Boeing.

CurtisLeow

Being serious here, if this mission fails, Boeing are in deep trouble.

they have had more money, more time, and yet will have failed miserably.

Their status as the ‘reliable’ & ‘safe’ option will be gone…

this is alfer the 737Max disaster, the 737 Pickle-fork issue, the KC-46 saga, SLS (When?) etc etc..

how many more disasters can they stand before they are no longer considered a safe pair of hands for government contracts?

Scuffers

Planning to safely land at White Sands (their overall intended landing zone) Sunday. Planning to do some orbital tests while up there. Not going to ISS but making the most of getting to space.

Nemesis651

I wonder what the boss to worker ratio is at Boeing? 100 bosses per engineer or production guy?

parkegs

When this post is 10 hours old Starliner will launch atop Atlas V towards ISS [6:36 a.m. EST]

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I haven’t been paying much attention to the starliner development recently. Is this its first flight?

wd26

Nice. I just watched the ISS pass my home at a mag of -3.6 and here is this rocket going towards it soon. Awesome.

verifiedone

Coverage of the launch was egregiously dull. Been spoiled by SpaceX I guess.

the_fungible_man

Damn, I didn’t know they had come *that* far. I’ll be watching this!

neihuffda

The test does not appear successful. Orbit insertion burn did not take place. It appears they did use RCS thrusters to raise the orbit a bit so it’s not on an immediate return.

terrymr

SpaceX Is Lobbying Against Amazon’s Internet-Beaming Satellites – Amazon is trying to get a waiver to FCC rules that companies like SpaceX and OneWeb had to follow.

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Amazon needs to be broken up at this point. When you’re bigger than the rules, we stop playing with you.

bearlick

I think Jeff needs to get to orbit at least a single time and achieve reusability before making all these grand plans for a constellation.

agildehaus

“Chairman Ajit Pai”

Hmmm where have I heard that name before…

accidentallybrill

I’ve got a serious question. Who made the FCC the gatekeeper? Is there an international Commission ? I can understand the FCC regulating US companies or even foreign companies that want to provide services in the US. Everything I read makes it sound like the FCC is the final authority. Seems like the rest of the world should have some input.

wdwerker

Why doesn’t Amazon just buy one of the companies that has a license? It has enough money.

fitblubber

All 786 known planets (as of 2012) to Scale

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This looks like one of those color blind tests I can’t do

stupidprotocols

What’s the biggest exoplanet that isn’t a Brown Dwarf?

Terezzian

Huh….i always thought there were more than that. That we know about anyway.

Grifasaurus

I don’t agree with the statement on there: “We don’t know what’s on any of them.” Uhh…sure we do. I know infrared spectroscopy of extrasolar planets is difficult at times, but to say we don’t know what’s on any of them? Totally incorrect.

xBleedingBluex

As of now, there are 4104 known exoplanets.
And almost certainly 1,000,000,000s more out there just in our galaxy to be discovered

CountlessWorlds

What could NASA accomplish in 2020 if it had the $738 Billion Dollar DoD budget

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Part of the problem with complicated projects is that they take a while to spin up. Even with unlimited funds, it’s not like we would see a moon landing in December 2020.

The boring real world answer (other then that this is pure fantasy) is that a lot of the money would be set aside to grow in a fund that NASA could then use to continue to fund itself for decades to come.

Also, the big contractors would skim a lot off the top. Get fucked Boeing.

thereisnocenter

Probably massively reduce the launch schedule of the James Webb telescope to 50 years from now.

ZeroBullshitMan

A one time budget bump is likely to end up with a lot of waste. Many of NASA’s projects last years, and budgetary constraints are only part of that. If they were able to spread that extra money over a decade, we might start seeing extra flagship missions every year, those cost around a billion on average. So we might get the Europa sub, a Neptune and Uranus orbiter, and there may be more extensive commercial crew/cargo investments in super heavy lift rockets for a moon base.

bearsnchairs

A decent fraction of that money should be spent on education first, including rebuilding decaying school infrastructure around the country.

rocksfly

10x to 100x better Astroid detector system and an orbiting astroid destruction
system for city killer sized astroids on up. Moon space station and colony. Mars space station and colony.

Devil-sAdvocate